dlaing Posted November 23, 2006 Posted November 23, 2006 Does anybody know anything about these kits offered by TLM,? http://www.tlm.nl/nieuws/?id=36 Thanks, Michael I am not sure what the details are on that kit. The good news is it uses less than two thirds the power of the OEM light. What I wonder is, is it the High/Low Beam conversion kit or does it only do low beam? These lights may be illegal in the USA. Don't get me started on the politics their. Here is a site that sells the high/low H4 kit...for export from US only... http://www.sportsimportsltd.com/higlowbeamhi.html and the High or Low H4 kit http://www.sportsimportsltd.com/mothidsinkit.html Warm up time for HIDs is slow, so it is better to set it up as a low beam, and then get a pair of driving lights to act as a high beam The kit racerX posted looks to be a bit easier to set up. I wonder how effective it is??????? My neighbor has a KTM dirt bike with HID lighting....it is pretty impressive, and a bit blinding to uncoming drivers.
Guest Gary Cheek Posted November 23, 2006 Posted November 23, 2006 David, On the subject of headlight relays. I have your kit done and will drop it in the mail Friday or Saturday. As for the TLM kit. There are quite a few other kits available closer t home for less $$. Do a search on motorcycle HID conversions, under different variations. There are a few in the $120 range that use a combination of Halogen and Zenon to give you the dual beams. If you have original wiring, try the relays before taking the HID plunge. They will be desireable for the HID if you go that far so the effort is not wasted in any event.
dlaing Posted November 23, 2006 Posted November 23, 2006 David, On the subject of headlight relays. I have your kit done and will drop it in the mail Friday or Saturday. As for the TLM kit. There are quite a few other kits available closer t home for less $$. Do a search on motorcycle HID conversions, under different variations. There are a few in the $120 range that use a combination of Halogen and Zenon to give you the dual beams. If you have original wiring, try the relays before taking the HID plunge. They will be desireable for the HID if you go that far so the effort is not wasted in any event. Wow! Prices really have gone down on HID. Thanks Gary! for everything! I am pretty sure the kit will give me the lighting I need. I would only go for the HID if I needed an electric vest or other accessories. Instead of HID, which can be bulky, could one add a resistor to reduce the load? If so, what resistor might work? Maybe a ballast resistor for an automotive coil? The resistor could be bypassed for normal use. For example durring the day time, or on moon lit night it might be nice to have the high beam on, but energy use reduced to 30 or 40 Watts. What do you think...could be alot cheaper than HID and reserve a little energy for accessories. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!
mznyc Posted November 23, 2006 Posted November 23, 2006 David, On the subject of headlight relays. I have your kit done and will drop it in the mail Friday or Saturday. As for the TLM kit. There are quite a few other kits available closer t home for less $$. Do a search on motorcycle HID conversions, under different variations. There are a few in the $120 range that use a combination of Halogen and Zenon to give you the dual beams. If you have original wiring, try the relays before taking the HID plunge. They will be desireable for the HID if you go that far so the effort is not wasted in any event. Hi Gary, Do you know where I can source the Halogen/Xenon combo?The cheapest dual beam HID kit I could find was $229.00 from here,http://www.hidplaza.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=19 . Thanks, Michael
dlaing Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 Hi Gary, Do you know where I can source the Halogen/Xenon combo?The cheapest dual beam HID kit I could find was $229.00 from here,http://www.hidplaza.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=19 . Thanks, Michael The cheapest I found were these at only $119!!! http://cqlight.ca/index.php?cPath=31 8000K (pretty darn bluish) and http://cqlight.ca/product_info.php?cPath=3...products_id=113 5000K (close to daylight white, but blue compared to halogen which are normally about 3200K) The thing that still holds me back is the extra clutter on the bike. If only we had REAL side panels to hide stuff behind ...progress
Guest Gary Cheek Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 Wow! Prices really have gone down on HID. Thanks Gary! for everything! I am pretty sure the kit will give me the lighting I need. I would only go for the HID if I needed an electric vest or other accessories. Instead of HID, which can be bulky, could one add a resistor to reduce the load? If so, what resistor might work? Maybe a ballast resistor for an automotive coil? The resistor could be bypassed for normal use. For example durring the day time, or on moon lit night it might be nice to have the high beam on, but energy use reduced to 30 or 40 Watts. What do you think...could be alot cheaper than HID and reserve a little energy for accessories. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!! I'm not sure what you want to do with the resistor. Reduce the load for daytime running? A resistor for the headlight would be very large and make quite a bit of heat. The heat is wasted energy for teh most part. If you are trying to reduce the load for daytime running with a light at reduced output, the filaments of the bulb could be wired in series. A relay pack could be configured to do that. Look for a Euro version of the headlight you are using with a pilot or parking bulb. You could fit a 20watt or so halogen and use that as a daytime running light.
dlaing Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 I'm not sure what you want to do with the resistor. Reduce the load for daytime running? A resistor for the headlight would be very large and make quite a bit of heat. The heat is wasted energy for teh most part. If you are trying to reduce the load for daytime running with a light at reduced output, the filaments of the bulb could be wired in series. A relay pack could be configured to do that. Look for a Euro version of the headlight you are using with a pilot or parking bulb. You could fit a 20watt or so halogen and use that as a daytime running light. Exactly. I want to reduce the load for daytime running, while retaining visibility. Those are some good ideas. Thanks! I'll try hunting for a 9mm bulb in halogen. I have been looking for one in LED to make parking less battery draining, and the bulb more durable. My original 5mm parking bulb has been burnt out for years Of course if I go halogen, I'll have to make sure the socket does not get too hot. The 20W halogen reflector bulbs would be too tricky to fit, especially without interfering with the main reflector's high beam. Crossing over the high and low filaments in series may be the ticket. Bulb life would be extended and energy would not be wasted like it apparently is with a resistor.
dlaing Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 I'll try hunting for a 9mm bulb in halogen. That was not difficult 5W http://www.atlantalightbulbs.com/ecart/nw0.../64111OSRAM.htm 10W http://www.atlantalightbulbs.com/ecart/nw012104/64113.htm 20W http://www.atlantalightbulbs.com/ecart/nw012104/64115.htm Apparently I just had to determine the bulb is a ba9s FWIW the OEM is 3W LEDs and blue xeon are not hard to find either http://autolumination.com/otherleds.htm But LEDs might not be able to handle the heat close to the halogen...
mznyc Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 [ The kit racerX posted looks to be a bit easier to set up. I didn't see any details on the RacerX set up here or on Guzzitech.Did I miss it? MZ
dlaing Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 [ The kit racerX posted looks to be a bit easier to set up. I didn't see any details on the RacerX set up here or on Guzzitech.Did I miss it? MZ He'll be posting it later. It could be very illuminating
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