helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted December 18, 2006 Posted December 18, 2006 I watched the inaugural race of the Moto-ST endurance series on SpeedTV today. I quite enjoyed it so I checked their website to see a little about the bikes racing. You see, I was intrigued that the bikes competing were SV 650's and 1000's, Buells, Ducati Paul Smart 1000's and a 749, Kawasaki EX 650's, an Aprilia Tuono and even a Hyosung! There were even quite a few recognizable names among the competitors. Stephane Mertens, Geoff May, Mike Ciccoto, Michael Barnes and Frank Trombino to name a few as well as Colin Fraser, Steve MvLaughlin and Don Emde amonst the organisers. The racing was an 8 hour endurance race that ended in the evening so the bikes needed lighting. The racing was quite exciting. Many bikes within their classes were very similar in performance and their was a lot of drafting on the banking. The race was run on the old layout - not the AMA layout so there was wide open racing! I read up on some of the rules and was surpised to find the Buell XB-RR is allowed but not the MGS-01. They must have to detune the Buell or else it doesn't make its stated 150 hp (118 hp is the maximum allowed so a stock MGS wouldbe perfect). However the Griso is allowed for the GrandSport class. I wonder if anyone will race one. Here is a link to their website. Here are the class breakdowns! SuperSport Twins – SST SST motorcycles must produce at least 90 horsepower and no more than 118 horsepower as measured on the official Dynojet Dyno in post race testing. Unless otherwise stated, minimum post race weight will be 400 pounds without the addition of fluids or ballast of any kind. The following motorcycles are recommended for competition in SST: Aprilia 1000 Tuono BMW R1200S, RT, ST Buell XB-RR Ducati 749R, Monster S4R, ST4S Harley-Davidson V-Rod Honda VTR1000F Super Hawk Suzuki SV1000S GrandSport Twins – GST GST motorcycles must produce at least 75 horsepower and no more than 90 horsepower as measured on the official Dynojet Dyno in post race testing. Unless otherwise stated, minimum post race weight will be 390 pounds without the addition of fluids or ballast of any kind. The following motorcycles are recommended for competition in GST: BMW R1100S Buell – All XB12 models Ducati 1000 SS, Monster S2R, Multistrada, Supersport 900 Moto Guzzi Griso 1100 Sport Twins - ST ST motorcycles may not produce more than 75 horsepower as measured on the official Dynojet Dyno in post race testing. Unless otherwise stated, minimum post race weight will be 400 pounds without the addition of fluids or ballast of any kind. The following motorcycles are recommended for competition in ST: Buell – All XB9 models Ducati Monster 620, 695 Kawasaki EX-500 Kawasaki Ninja 650R Harley-Davidson 1200 Sportster, 883 Sportster Suzuki SV650 Triumph Thruxton, Bonneville
soloNH Posted December 18, 2006 Posted December 18, 2006 Oh yeah! Fun to watch indeed, nice to see a real mix of brands and classes represented. Hope they do other tracks as well.
dlaing Posted December 18, 2006 Posted December 18, 2006 GST motorcycles must produce at least 75 horsepower and no more than 90 horsepower as measured on the official Dynojet Dyno in post race testing. Unless otherwise stated, minimum post race weight will be 390 pounds without the addition of fluids or ballast of any kind. The following motorcycles are recommended for competition in GST: BMW R1100S Buell – All XB12 models Ducati 1000 SS, Monster S2R, Multistrada, Supersport 900 Moto Guzzi Griso 1100 Sport Twins - ST ST motorcycles may not produce more than 75 horsepower as measured on the official Dynojet Dyno in post race testing. Unless otherwise stated, minimum post race weight will be 400 pounds without the addition of fluids or ballast of any kind. The following motorcycles are recommended for competition in ST: Buell – All XB9 models Ducati Monster 620, 695 Kawasaki EX-500 Kawasaki Ninja 650R Harley-Davidson 1200 Sportster, 883 Sportster Suzuki SV650 Triumph Thruxton, Bonneville Jim, you could race your Rosson Mandello in the GST And I could get a Quat-D exhaust and race in the ST competition
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted December 18, 2006 Author Posted December 18, 2006 Jim, you could race your Rosson Mandello in the GST And I could get a Quat-D exhaust and race in the ST competition Let's go!!!!!!!!!!!
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted December 18, 2006 Author Posted December 18, 2006 why not take the mgs? YES!!
RacerX Posted December 22, 2006 Posted December 22, 2006 Not that easy guys... a few of us here in SoCal have been "petitioning" the organizers to allow a V11 Sport/Le Mans in, period. I'm readying my '02 (Cal/Jackal powered; small valve, sport cam, big throttle bodies, ala Dr. John) Le Mans in hopes of competing in the ST class. Moto-ST's focus is on bikes that are currently available for sale. Jim if you're really serious, they might just allow the MGS-01 in, but count on some seriously stiff competition. I raced against Ciccoto many years ago on a Buell (beat him on many occasions), and he (alongside of Doug Polen) was one of the testers when MGNA was testing/considering racing the MGS in AMA. Both said 'no go' on it. A well-prepped Tuono would be a tough mount to beat. Trying to be competitive on a Griso in the GST class is a bit assinine. Not that it can't be done, but you'd better be prepared to spend buckets. Wish me luck... all updates on my progress will be posted on the www.GuzziTech.com webboard.
Guest Mattress Posted December 22, 2006 Posted December 22, 2006 I don't feel well, there is a Laverda 1200 for sale and I want to buy it. Someone with reason on this forum please stop the dude. Because, all the dude ever wanted was his rug back. But a triple air cooled Italian lover, I just don't know anymore. I think I will try to sleep now. Please ABIDE. LAVERDA.............I Think I love you
stormsedge Posted December 22, 2006 Posted December 22, 2006 I'll help...Buy It!! Do you feel better now? Merry Christmas. k
Ouiji Veck Posted December 22, 2006 Posted December 22, 2006 Great ...hope Guzzi gets involved somehow...and.. Good luck RacerX
Guest Mattress Posted December 22, 2006 Posted December 22, 2006 I'll help...Buy It!! Do you feel better now? Merry Christmas. k Yes, thanks. Much better. I see I posted that on the wrong thread and forum, so sorry dudes. Too much egg-nog & Christmas parties. You know, if it is still for sale in the new year I might just be tempted. I really want to pay attention to the Sport, but the Laverdas don't come up for sale often. My mechanic has a sweet looking green Jota that is his daily rider if you can believe it. My New Year's Goals are: 1. Dial in the sport's suspension 2. Spend some $$ on the few mods I want to make to the exhaust. 3. As many weekend rides as I can to build rider experience, Guzzi rallies, Track Days, MSF courses. I've already started by moving into a shared apartment to cut my rent to 1/3 of 2006.
Skeeve Posted December 24, 2006 Posted December 24, 2006 Trying to be competitive on a Griso in the GST class is a bit assinine. Not that it can't be done, but you'd better be prepared to spend buckets. Well, for starters, if you read the rules, it seems you'll be giving away at least 50# and a whole buncha horsepower to the competition. Hard to make that up, even when spending major dollar$.
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